tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post2702073349781940422..comments2013-11-03T09:31:33.295-08:00Comments on Conservatives for Prentice: Why Now?CONSERVATIVES for PRENTICEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10398655429187578455noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-47912702481747136082008-12-07T20:34:00.000-08:002008-12-07T20:34:00.000-08:00Wouldn't Rob Anders be a better choice?Wouldn't Rob Anders be a better choice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-85990481683851938302008-12-02T13:24:00.000-08:002008-12-02T13:24:00.000-08:00What blood sucking scum would start a "Dump Steve"...What blood sucking scum would start a "Dump Steve" movement after all he has done for Canada. Steve tried to stop funding to his opponents, he will soon suspend Parliament and then try to force an election upon Canadians. Why can you not get behind Steve on this? Jim has supported fully Steve so why can you not do the same ? Well if the party does dump Steve I guess all Conservatives will have to support Jim. After all, Satan is not available. <BR/><BR/>One last quick comment - a lot of people are supporting Mr. Baird - he is behind Steve - even if having Mr. Baird behind him makes Steve mighty nervous. As they say on the support for Mr. Baird site: Log Cabin Conservatives for Baird !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-48028918350797707162008-12-02T03:47:00.000-08:002008-12-02T03:47:00.000-08:00Call out the army. We could have our own tiananmen...Call out the army. We could have our own tiananmen square. Mr. Harper, pull out all the stops. It is vital you hang on to power AT ANY COST.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-74466914292117999252008-12-01T18:31:00.000-08:002008-12-01T18:31:00.000-08:00We can't let the left take over. We are the only p...We can't let the left take over. We are the only party who can lead Canada down the right path. We were elected to lead in the last election. The left has no right to be the government. How dare they.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-80159687002825643682008-12-01T18:27:00.000-08:002008-12-01T18:27:00.000-08:00Yes, let's give Harper the boot. How could he lead...Yes, let's give Harper the boot. How could he lead us to such a debacle. I'm for Prentice. Perhaps Harper should step down this week to appease the socialists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-7907167410549693452008-12-01T07:11:00.000-08:002008-12-01T07:11:00.000-08:00It appears that you don't understand our electoral...It appears that you don't understand our electoral system if you claim that Canadians indicated that they wanted a Conservative government on October 14th. The reality is that we don't elect governments in this system, we elect individual Members of Parliament who then decide on who constitutes the government. The essential component of that government is that it has the confidence of the majority of the members of the House. <BR/><BR/>Stephen Harper and the rest of the Conservatives who initially stood behind him in this outrageous attack on opposition parties, public service workers and victims of the economic times we live in have shown utter contempt for the political process in this country as well as the millions of people who voted very clearly to deny a majority for any of the parties presenting. There is no way that The Tories can regain that confidence after such a breech of conduct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-50774369087102949832008-12-01T05:07:00.000-08:002008-12-01T05:07:00.000-08:00Well, the people hardly voted for a Conservative P...Well, the people hardly voted for a Conservative Party. In fact, 60% didn't. It's important to keep that fact in mind. The Conservative Agenda as it has been for quite awhile is hardly conservative, nor is it inclusive of the Canadian people, their country or the welfare of either. It's been pro-American, instead. An overhaul of the party is in order.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-20051190262938651072008-12-01T00:29:00.000-08:002008-12-01T00:29:00.000-08:00This website is a hoax, it was created by:Jeff Mon...This website is a hoax, it was created by:<BR/><BR/>Jeff Monaghan<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Monaghan<BR/><BR/>just some silly sour grapes hereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-59324523744815309092008-11-30T22:09:00.000-08:002008-11-30T22:09:00.000-08:00It is a known fact that 62% of Canadians voted AGA...It is a known fact that 62% of Canadians voted AGAINST the CPC, so I've gotta ask: How in the world do you manage to conclude that the results of Oct 14 point to Canadians wanting a Conservative Government? <BR/><BR/>A coalition government is what Canadians want, and we Canadians are finally going to get what a dysfunctional electoral system couldn't deliver.<BR/><BR/>All of you are destroying Canada. There was a time when I would have suggested that you all move to the US and leave the rest of us alone, but the tide turned even there... <BR/>Conservatism -- the outmoded, selfish and reactionary ideology responsible for financial crisis, poverty motivated crime, environmental damage, and social disparity -- has burned itself out. It's a satisfying thing to watch...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-83196805096632388412008-11-30T20:33:00.000-08:002008-11-30T20:33:00.000-08:00Fully support this site here. I am a moderate who...Fully support this site here. I am a moderate who is slightly right of centre. I supported the old PCs, but could not vote Conservative under Harper and his actions to date prove me right. At the same time I worry a coalition of the NDP + Bloc Quebecois + Liberals would take our country too far to the left. I would be fine if the Liberals were given a chance to govern and did everything on an issue by issue basis as they have generally been moderate and reasonable.<BR/><BR/>If Jim Prentice is chosen as leader I would consider returning to the Conservative fold, but definitely not with Harper as a leader.Monkey Loves to Fighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122291567543761919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-67976133367218959672008-11-30T19:59:00.000-08:002008-11-30T19:59:00.000-08:00Go to this blog for the real storyhttp://conservat...Go to this blog for the real story<BR/><BR/>http://conservativeforprentice.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-61922375836547401582008-11-30T18:26:00.000-08:002008-11-30T18:26:00.000-08:00I don't have any respect for Harper at all. He thi...I don't have any respect for Harper at all. He thinks Canadians are idiots when he plays his little political games like cutting public funding to political parties. Canadians don't see this as cost cutting but an obvious attempt to destroy the Liberals. Prentice is a gentleman in the tradition of Robert Stanfield and I hope he will become the next leader of the Conservatives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-74514933664780714202008-11-30T12:58:00.000-08:002008-11-30T12:58:00.000-08:00David Higginbottom,You are fair to distance Jim Pr...David Higginbottom,<BR/>You are fair to distance Jim Prentice from this blog if he is indeed not behind it. In fact, it could do immeasurable damage to any real leadership ambitions he has for the future.<BR/><BR/>HOWEVER, it is disingenuous for you to describe the Opposition's action as purely a power grab. Mr. Harper HANDED them this opportunity, nay, looked them in the eye and DARED them to do it. It is the single worst political miscalculation of his career. <BR/><BR/>So, protect your own candidate, who in my observation is a decent and honest man who does not need to be viewed as Judas because of a blog. But, to expect the party faithful to support what Stephen Harper and only Stephen Harper did to cause this situation is unrealistic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-12854279918918189822008-11-30T12:40:00.000-08:002008-11-30T12:40:00.000-08:00Loyalty to party and country should come before lo...Loyalty to party and country should come before loyalty to an individual.<BR/><BR/>Is Harper being loyal to party and country by not resigning for the good of the party and country?<BR/><BR/>There is no need for the Conservative Party to commit another blunder and lose government because of Harper's blunder.<BR/><BR/>It is Harper who will have lost the confidence of the majority in Parliament, NOT the Conservative Party.whyshouldIsellyourwheathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15374434311219741650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-58389418181649208492008-11-30T12:10:00.000-08:002008-11-30T12:10:00.000-08:00As Jim Prentice’s riding president and campaign ma...As Jim Prentice’s riding president and campaign manager in the recent federal election, I feel it necessary to make several points to those who are posting on this blog as well as the architects of this site. First and foremost is the fact that this site is neither endorsed, supported nor in any way encouraged by Mr. Prentice, nor any of the people who work or volunteer for him – in fact quite the opposite is true. <BR/><BR/>It is unfortunate that at a time when conservatives need to be working together to prevent what is a desperate power play by the opposition to seize control of our democratically elected government, that a site like this would be created. All conservatives and any Canadians who believe in democracy and the importance of stability during this time of economic crisis should follow Mr. Prentice’s unwavering support of and loyalty to our leader and our Prime Minister, Stephen Harper. <BR/><BR/>David Higginbottom <BR/>President, Calgary Centre North Conservative EDADavid Higginbottomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04472759928435881779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-49867416960377546322008-11-30T11:42:00.000-08:002008-11-30T11:42:00.000-08:00Harper has been anything but conservative: Under h...Harper has been anything but conservative: Under his tenure federal spending has shot up at more than twice the rate of inflation; he cut the GST when he should have cut the income tax; he raised taxes on income trust businesses resulting in many being sold off to foreign private equity players who pay no tax here; showered billions of new 'equalization' money on Quebec; past a motion calling Quebec "a nation"; past his law on fixed election dates then promptly broke it.<BR/><BR/>If this is what passes for "conservative" then there is no need for a Liberal Party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-53453447973015612302008-11-30T11:35:00.000-08:002008-11-30T11:35:00.000-08:00One more thing. I have sent an e-mail to the offi...One more thing. I have sent an e-mail to the office of the prime minister under my real name suggesting that he fall on his sword.<BR/><BR/>So I may be anonymous here, but Harper's office has received my opinion that he should fall on his sword with my real name attached.whyshouldIsellyourwheathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15374434311219741650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-3971155031325978142008-11-30T11:31:00.000-08:002008-11-30T11:31:00.000-08:00Harper's blunder is only a blunder for the Conserv...Harper's blunder is only a blunder for the Conservative Party and Conservative government only if they follow Harper over the cliff.<BR/><BR/>The only alternative to a Harper minority is NOT the Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition, but the Conservative caucus asking Harper and Flaherty to fall on their swords for the good of the party and country, so a new Conservative minority with a new PM and a new finance minister can seek the confidence of the House of Commons next week.<BR/><BR/>This is Stephen Harper's blunder alone.<BR/><BR/>The Conservative Party should not make a second blunder by letting the opposition coalition get to a confidence vote. Replace Harper and Flaherty immediately, and go the the Commons with a new PM and a new finance minister and 140 plus MP's supporting them.<BR/><BR/>There is no way the opposition can trust Harper on anything now. They have to defeat him now while he has left himself prone, or Harper will just be more dangerous to them in the future. A cornered animal has to attack. Harper left the Opposition no where to retreat so they have to attack. A new Conservative PM next week opens the door to an Opposition retreat. It demolishes their case for defeating the government.<BR/><BR/>The caucus has to ask Harper to fall on his sword.<BR/><BR/>P.S. I am a political junkie, but not a member of any political party, nor a member of this group. I have voted Reform, CA, and Conservative far more often than I have voted Liberal, as I have a tendency to voting against sitting governments.whyshouldIsellyourwheathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15374434311219741650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-30999515302666921142008-11-30T11:14:00.000-08:002008-11-30T11:14:00.000-08:00For all of you questioning the timing of this disc...For all of you questioning the timing of this discussion, I offer the thought that perhaps Prime Minister Harper should have should have waited for a better time to make the announcement on party subsidies.<BR/>He made a majority government move, in a minority. And may I point out that he must take repsonsibility for this minority. As he was given a gift in the form of Dion yet he was still unable to win us our majority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-1137196413322755532008-11-30T10:56:00.000-08:002008-11-30T10:56:00.000-08:00If Prentice would be sincere in putting the 'progr...If Prentice would be sincere in putting the 'progressive' back into the Conservative vernacular, then an old red tory such as myself may be enticed to return to the fold. Western populism with its not so thin veneer of intolerance, xenophobia and christian overtones has always been a no-go zone for many of us. Two thumbs up to this honourable endeavour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-64879408562223987972008-11-30T10:04:00.001-08:002008-11-30T10:04:00.001-08:00You reds just don't get it. You think we have to ...You reds just don't get it. You think we have to be Liberals to form government. If that's the case then why don't you go join that party.<BR/><BR/>For us true conservatives we will support a PM that has a large enough base to win a government, but will not cave on all of our principles to do so.<BR/><BR/>Mike Harris was by no means a centrist and he won back to back majorities in communist Ontario. Ernie Eaves and John Tory were reds like Prentice and got spanked!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-86500317379728677672008-11-30T10:04:00.000-08:002008-11-30T10:04:00.000-08:00The timing of this website insults every member wh...The timing of this website insults every member who cares about the unity of this party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-28498031808320051662008-11-30T09:57:00.000-08:002008-11-30T09:57:00.000-08:00There is little doubt that if Conservatives are go...There is little doubt that if Conservatives are going to survive in the long term, they will have to have a moderate leader.<BR/>The reality is MOST Canadians are smack dab in the centre of the political spectrum. Swing a little to the left or a little to the right and you're ok. <BR/>Go too far either way and Canadians will take you down. <BR/>All the sweater vests in the world will not make Stephen Harper a Red Tory or a moderate and and you just can't pretend that you are if you're not. Now, I'm not suggesting that Harper does not have a legitimate political ideology. He does. It's just not one that appeals to a majority of Canadians and while he can expect his "base" to cheer him on, he can't expect the populous to support an extreme partisan agenda just because it's wrapped up in an economic policy during a financial crisis. Despite all his efforts to make him appear more centre, this terrible fiscal update did nothing but cement the idea that Harper is nothing more than a power hungry ideologue and clearly he insisted on it at his own peril. <BR/>The nearly unanimous commentary that Stephen Harper shot himself in the foot with this ill advised fiscal update is absolutely true. I'm not sure any of the columnists are seeing beyond the week or two of parliamentary brinksmanship to come. <BR/>Stephen Harper may well have written his own political obituary. The tentative Conservative voter (the voter that came to the Party in the last election or two, but is not stuck there) has had a major dose of doubt as to what they were really voting for. This fiscal update will, in one fell swoop, alienated a huge number of voters. It was the classic bait and switch. Harper was not only ruling like he had a majority, he was ruling as if the people who voted for him completely trusted him and as if the people who didn't don't count at all. He was wrong on all fronts. And Conservatives have every right to tell him so. Support him, that's fair enough. But, to blindly follow the leader in light of a blunder that is so huge it threatens the long term viability of the CPC is simply foolish. You don't have to divide the party in tatters to express a different opinion. Or do you? I hope for the sake of democracy and the fine tradition of debate in dissent in the Conservative Party and every other Canadian political party for that matter, it has not come to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-18448659569548081942008-11-30T09:50:00.000-08:002008-11-30T09:50:00.000-08:00You better hope that none of you guys are tied to ...You better hope that none of you guys are tied to Prentice. If you are, he is done like dinner<BR/><BR/>Take down this website now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5950959482655137886.post-71084304853366683402008-11-30T09:47:00.000-08:002008-11-30T09:47:00.000-08:00I can only hope that this is a liberal backroom tr...I can only hope that this is a liberal backroom trick. The timing of website is an insult to everyone in the Conservative party who has worked for party unity and to get us elected. Shame on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com